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Fianna Fail – What you think we said, we didn’t say

I’m constantly frustrated with the Fianna Fail policy of saying something publicly, and then immediately backtracking in private. We’re left with the impression that something is being done about the problems we’re experiencing, whereas in reality, nothing is being done at all.

Here’s just one of the many examples we could pick out as to why we’re suffering under the worst administration in the history of the country.

According to the above article:

The Department is introducing stricter identity checks in Post Offices throughout the country for people collecting Social Welfare payments.

But, according to an interview with the Minister on Morning Ireland on RTE1 on the Monday morning, not everyone will be obliged to show an ID. And in an age where very few of our media journalists ask the hard questions, the Minister wasn’t pushed on the fact that she had almost immediately back tracked on the new stricter rule that she was on the national airwaves to publicise.

In what was essentially the drift of what she was saying, if you’re known to staff, you won’t be asked for ID – but if you’re a non-Irish national, you will.

It’s not as if social welfare fraud was only carried out in Ireland with the arrival of our non-Irish national friends.

It’s nuts that they’ve come up with a rule and have backtracked on it immediately. It’s typical Fianna Fail bluff and thunder – “we’re saying one thing to make you think we’re doing something, but then we’re doing something else – or more particularly, not actually doing anything”.

I could be the most well known person in my local bank and have built up an excellent relationship with my bank manager by being a great client, but as soon as I ask to open a new account, they’re still going to ask me to prove who I am with proof of address and passports and so on.

Why shouldn’t all people be obliged to show their photo ID? I don’t believe anyone would actually have an issue with that if they were validly seeking benefit and knew that by doing so they’d be ensuring those fraudulently claiming benefits would be outed. It’s called the greater good – but we’re slowly but surely forgetting about that in this country.

5 comments On Fianna Fail – What you think we said, we didn’t say

  • Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing that Fianna Fail says can be taken as true or accurate. This party is so choked by its own corruptness that no noe knows what the truth is. Very Orwellian, Big Brother changes the facts to suit the current story. And the media is as compliant as ever!

  • How about a little “devil’s advocate” on this one?

    I’m on Social Welfare, so I can’t afford to go out drinking, therefore I don’t need an Age Card. I’m on Social Welfare, so I can’t afford to go on foreign holidays, therefore I don’t need a Passport. I’m on Social Welfare, so I can’t afford to run a car, therefore I don’t need a Driving Licence. What ID would you have me produce?

    There is no legal obligation on Irish nationals, in Ireland, to carry, or indeed, own, photographic ID. So how can the government require photographic ID for any everyday transaction between the state and one of it’s citizens?

    You raise an interesting point by bringing up the anti money laundering regulations that require the production of ID to open a bank account. Yes, I did have to produce ID to open an account, yet the government will not pay my Social Welfare into that same bank account, again, in the name of fraud prevention.

    The problem is not the claimants, the problem is that the entire system is so badly designed that it cannot withstand fraud. Only today I read of a woman convicted of claiming her late mother’s pension payments for 18 years after her death. Neither the existing system, or the proposed new checks, would have prevented this particular case, which cost the Exchequer €90,000.

    I was in my local post office yesterday, collecting a couple of hundred euro I was lucky enough to win on the Lotto, and was asked for ID, which I had no problem in producing. However, if I had been asked to produce ID this morning when collecting my Social Welfare payment, I would have refused, on the basis that the State has no right to insist that I own the type of ID that they are looking for.

    In short, to answer your question, “Why shouldn’t all people be obliged to show their photo ID?” : because all people are not obliged to OWN photo ID in the first place. It’s called common sense – but we’re slowly but surely forgetting about that in this country.

  • I would much rather see FF go after crooked bankers and axe half the bloated & overpaid public service than go after benefit cheats.

    Not that it’s okay, but it’s a sideshow, so please, let’s not buy into it.

  • @Mark – You’re last comment is one of the big difficulties that I have. The unquestioning nature of the reporting we’re seeing means that it’s just too easy for the general public to be fooled. Given my experiences with the manipulation of the media by the IdeasCampaign, this complicity has as much to do with what does make the news as to what doesn’t.

    @Francis – Thanks for the interesting angle. I was intrigued to see how you’d willingly provide your ID to one arm of the State (the Post Office) to get some money, but would refuse it to another to get your social welfare.

    The requirement to have an ID in the first place is a challenge – but I guess rules like this could be a way to bring in universal IDs by the back door i.e. no, you don’t have to have an ID, but you need an ID to do X, Y and Z.

    @Tom – You’re right – all a side show, but I’m convinced that Fianna Fail depend on these kinds of sideshows to distract the public.

  • Uinsin O Riabhaigh

    Fianna Fail must be congratulated for the destruction of the PD’s and most likely/hopefully the Green’s also.

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